Mickelson gambling story?

[whormoan]

Was anyone listening to either ESPN or Fox Sports radio (Not sure which it was)around 11:30-12:00 pacific time today when they were discussing Phil Mickelson's gambling habits?

They made mention of him betting on someone other than himself to win the British and whomever was on the air was saying he couldn't believe the PGA hadn't stepped in a long time ago with Mickelson (when he made his Raven winning Superbowl future bet public knowledge)

[max1234]

The rumor around the PGA is that his Callaway bonus last summer went to settle up with Vegas... and getting that bonus was why he switched clubs just before the Ryder Cup, which was very unusual. Normally club switching is an offseason chore. The other rumor was that SI was set to release a story about Phil's illegitimate child during Master's week but FORD threatened SI with pulling all ad revenue in the future if they ran the story.

[Journeyman]

He also had Az in the WS in 2001 I believe.

[Journeyman]

Wow, good dirt Max!

[whormoan]

Max, why would he have to "settle up" with Vegas? Does this infer that he is betting on credit and not putting his money up at the counter (or having someone do it for him to stay on the D.L.)

Did you hear anything about what i started this thread with?

[michael777]

phyllis is a well known big time gambler

[Illini]

The rumor around the PGA is that his Callaway bonus last summer went to settle up with Vegas... and getting that bonus was why he switched clubs just before the Ryder Cup, which was very unusual. Normally club switching is an offseason chore. The other rumor was that SI was set to release a story about Phil's illegitimate child during Master's week but FORD threatened SI with pulling all ad revenue in the future if they ran the story.

Illegitimate child??? WTF??? He can't do any better than the hot wife that he has.

[max1234]

Whormoan,

The figure I heard was that he owed around 10 mil in Vegas to various casino's. Apparently he discovered Baccarat awhile back. I haven't heard anything about the Tour stepping in and telling him to tone it down. Most anyone that has his type of money plays on credit vs cash. It's the same thing that happened to Daly a few years back. Casino's are all too happy to have celebs gamble in their places and if a man is worth a few million he's going to get large credit lines at multiple places. Daly owed millions up and down the Mississippi before he ever got in trouble in Vegas.

Anyone that's surprised that he has a gambling problem is naive. Anyone that puts 60,000 on a football futures bet has got issues.

[max1234]

Illini,

The story has it that she knew about the girlfriend....

[Illini]

Illini,

The story has it that she knew about the girlfriend....

Really? Wow. My impression was that he had this great life, wealth, hot wife, good family life, and golf was just a small piece of the pie. And I also had the impression that he was a pretty good sportsbettor, and made a lot of money at it.

[primetime21]

like all famous big time gamblers you will always hear stories like these.

[drunk]

Mickelson stiffed pinny for a huge number. Guy is utter garbage and a real degenerate.

[michael777]

Mickelson stiffed pinny for a huge number. Guy is utter garbage and a real degenerate. 100% true

[Brock Landers]

100% true

How could he Stiff Pinnacle?? Those guys don't give out lines of credit i thought..

[michael777]

How could he Stiff Pinnacle?? Those guys don't give out lines of credit i thought.. i am drunk,pay no attention to me tonight,i am serious :drink:

[michael777]

i had the yankees -1.5 , drove me to :drink:

[Vaulted Treehouse]

wait, did he or did he not stiff pinny. if so how much?

[drunk]

Yes.

who cares how much....He is a stiff.

Credit should not be discussed on any forums. You all should know better.

This forum is for post up players

[Drunken Horseplayer]

I don't see him selling his house or car or going bankrupt. When you've got tens (or hundreds) of millions of dollars then gambling 60k on a futures bet is nothing. Pete Rose and Michael Jordan are well-known gamblers and they're both doing just fine. Besides, I'll bet that plenty of athletes and celebrities have a habit of losing large in Vegas; casinos don't spend the money to fly them into town in Lear Jets just so they can break even.

[Dawoofdaddy]

I would like to see Phil post here.

Barry Alvarez plays $500 per hand BJ and Wisconsin promoted him to AD/Head Coach. Emmitt Smith also has been known to play a few dollars at the tables.

I would pay $$$ to have Alvarez post his Big Ten football plays.

:party:

[ironlock]

Phil is a well known, big time, credit player.

He is also a well known STIFF.

His modus operandi is to offer around 30-40 cents on the dollar....take it or leave it.

And that is ALL I will say about it.

[Illini]

Phil is a well known, big time, credit player.

He is also a well known STIFF.

His modus operandi is to offer around 30-40 cents on the dollar....take it or leave it.

And that is ALL I will say about it.

I don't doubt you guys. I just wonder how in the hell he isn't dead by now.

[World Number One]

i dont buy any of this.

i heard the futures bet on the ravens was a group of players that pooled some money.

if all this were true their isnt a magazine or radio show that would give 2 shits about ad revenue.

the story would make them money to run.

[Journeyman]

Wouldn't this have hit the national airwaves with all this information?

[appolo]

How people can post some of the crap they do is beyond me. The "I have heard" or "rumor has it" lines are the oldest and most telling way to find out who has a lonely and pathetic existence.

The funniest ones are those that try to insinuate that they have first hand knowledge of information that others don't. wink wink.

What a joke you guys are, I love reading this forum and learning things about gambling. Could do without the Desperate Housewifes crap!

[royalfan]

How people can post some of the crap they do is beyond me. The "I have heard" or "rumor has it" lines are the oldest and most telling way to find out who has a lonely and pathetic existence.

The funniest ones are those that try to insinuate that they have first hand knowledge of information that others don't. wink wink.

What a joke you guys are, I love reading this forum and learning things about gambling. Could do without the Desperate Housewifes crap!

Exactly, that nonsense being posted by Maxdemo and to a lesser extent other is laughable and ridiculous.

[Mr. Smith]

heres some gossip I am thinking more and more is true......

Tiger Woods had/has a reputation for being driven and focused to the point of being unfriendly to those around him. Mickelson has the reputation of the gregarois good guy making him a fan favorite. Regular guys like that hes known to bet ( just like they do) and he smiles real nice and comes across like a good guy in interviews on TV.

Behind the scenes among PGA tour pros however, Woods is respected in the clubhouse by his peers. He may not be Mr. Personality, but he is respected for his achievments and is curtious to others and is not at all a bad guy. Nobody has problems with him.

Mickelson however is pretty universally disliked by his peers. Hes arrogant and pissy towards others and isnt great to be around.

[Mr. Smith]

If you want a blast from the past, same goes for Lee Trevino as Mickelson. The " Merry Mex" was anything but when the cameras were not on him.

[doug stewart]

Exactly, that nonsense being posted by Maxdemo and to a lesser extent other is laughable and ridiculous.

And now you can add Mr. Smith to that group!

[Dante]

phyllis is a well known big time gambler I wonder how many offshore books he plays with

[Mr. Smith]

I believe what I posted is accurate. Your entitled to your opinion though

[joelatti]

I can second that trevino comment...been around the guy at least twenty times and when those cam,eras were on him he was the most likeable, funny guy...but as soon as they were turned off...he wouldn't give you spit.

[Mr. Smith]

A friend of mine personally saw Trevino go out of his way to be a dick to some kids that asked him for an autograph after a round.

[joelatti]

How could he Stiff Pinnacle?? Those guys don't give out lines of credit i thought..

Brock....Pinny does offer forms of credit ie you put up a certain ammount to start and each week you'll have the same line of credit...even if you lost the previous week...you just have to settle the amount in a reasonable amount of time......Gives you a little more flexablility

[max1234]

Royal,

If you'll notice I said 'the rumor is' , I didn't state it as fact. I have friends on and around the Tour that I heard this from. Also, Phil wouldn't be the first to have a child out of wedlock and have a squeaky clean image. I believe Dr J had a child show up after his career was over. And how many people thought Daly could be so in debt to the casino's when he was making millions? If you don't believe it, who cares? Be assured I could care less if you believe it or not. Hell, I could care less if it's true or not. Phil's life doesn't affect me one way or the other just as your opinion's don't.

Mr Smith and Joe are also correct about Trevino's personality away from the course. Most of the public just sees the personna but don't really know the person out of the public eye.

[Dante]

I have known Max1234 for 4+ years on this forum and not once have I see this guy post lies and bullshit just for attention ... I tend to beleive him

[Mr. Smith]

just to clarify, Trevino is night and day, day being on camera, night being off. A real jerk when off-stage.

I am not saying Mickelson is that bad, just that his " good guy" image is not shared by his peers. They don't like him for the reasons I said.

I had a hard time believing Woods is liked a lot better than Mickelson at first, but now I do believe its true.

I think Woods has matured quite a bit in the past 2-3 years. Mickelson is arrogant and a little sour when hes not smiling for the camera.

[CAPN CRUNCH]

How people can post some of the crap they do is beyond me. The "I have heard" or "rumor has it" lines are the oldest and most telling way to find out who has a lonely and pathetic existence.

The funniest ones are those that try to insinuate that they have first hand knowledge of information that others don't. wink wink.

What a joke you guys are, I love reading this forum and learning things about gambling. Could do without the Desperate Housewifes crap!Celebrities are human and have many human fallacies that do not get reported on by the AP and other news wires! I am not collaborating anything here, but I have been privy to some celebrities habits' that normal people would not believe! How old are you Appolo? Even if you are 80, you have a lot to learn about the real world! I don't agree with spreading malicious news just for news sake, but when somebody is a stiff, like Pete Rose is, all bets are off and should be told to the whole world! Stiffs with the money to pay are the WORST! And there are more out there than you and I know of!

[tooran]

Woods has definitely matured, but then again, he could only get more mature from where he was. I remember an SI article about 9 years ago (when Woods was 21) where the writer painted Woods as a pervert who would only talk about sex and dirty jokes, and nothing about golf.

Then again, he was 21 at the time. Who can't relate to that?

[tooran]

By the way, I do remember Mickelson having bet and won huge sums of money on the championship Ravens team and the champ D-Backs team. Both were relatively large long shots. If these are the winning bets we're hearing about from Mickelson, imagine how many of the losing bets we haven't heard about.

[appolo]

Celebrities are human and have many human fallacies that do not get reported on by the AP and other news wires! I am not collaborating anything here, but I have been privy to some celebrities habits' that normal people would not believe! How old are you Appolo? Even if you are 80, you have a lot to learn about the real world! I don't agree with spreading malicious news just for news sake, but when somebody is a stiff, like Pete Rose is, all bets are off and should be told to the whole world! Stiffs with the money to pay are the WORST! And there are more out there than you and I know of!

Thanks for the lesson on life. I'm sure I will be a much better person now because of it. I was extremly naive in my thinking that people that post on a fourum sitting behind a computer wouldn't have all the facts about Phil's fanancial and gambling life. Golly gee..........

I have read my post and then yours three times and fail to see any part of the two that in anyway addresses my post after quoting it. My post was specific to Phil and Phil only, not what other "Celeberty's" may or not do.

Good Luck to you, I have hitchikers to go pick up and drive to deserted roads

[detroitdave]

Did everyone know that it is legal to even bet on yourself at the British Open. In fact most golfers do bet on themselves there.

[CAPN CRUNCH]

Thanks for the lesson on life. I'm sure I will be a much better person now because of it. I was extremly naive in my thinking that people that post on a fourum sitting behind a computer wouldn't have all the facts about Phil's fanancial and gambling life. Golly gee..........

I have read my post and then yours three times and fail to see any part of the two that in anyway addresses my post after quoting it. My post was specific to Phil and Phil only, not what other "Celeberty's" may or not do.

Good Luck to you, I have hitchikers to go pick up and drive to deserted roadsWhere in your original post did you say you were referring to 'Phil and Phil alone'? It doesn't matter if you don't understand, the point of what I was saying is that any stiff is bad, but stiffs that have the money(like Mickelson) are even worse. P.S. You have to remember to have a licensed driver in the car with you to drive on that 'learners' permit'!

[appolo]

Where in your original post did you say you were referring to 'Phil and Phil alone'? It doesn't matter if you don't understand, the point of what I was saying is that any stiff is bad, but stiffs that have the money(like Mickelson) are even worse. P.S. You have to remember to have a licensed driver in the car with you to drive on that 'learners' permit'!

Reading some of your post it is clear you are the new resident know it all. A real good addition to the forum, keep up the good work. LMAO..

ps: If you had taken the time to read the title of the post you may have been able to figure out who I was talking about. Do that next time before making your foolish and sophomoric post.

I will just go back in the woodwork now and lurk from time to time. With people like you and some others this place has become a soap opera instead of a gambling forum. Posters like you are what keep people that may have something to offer away, and when they give you a factual and accurate observation you have the need to give a civics lesson to someone you haven't a clue of who or what they know. Good job if that was your intent.

[Wrigley]

Has he washed the Jacket yet ?

Phil Mickelson's Green Jacket Starting To Reek; Wife Begs Him To Take It Off
Originally posted 4/26/2004

SAN DIEGO - Amy Mickelson, wife of 2004 Masters champion Phil Mickelson, begged her husband recently to take off the green jacket he received for winning The Masters over two weeks ago. Phil Mickelson has made several appearances on television and in person wearing the jacket -- one of golf's most coveted and prestigious symbols -- and has yet to take it off since it was presented to him at the Augusta National Golf Club by 2003 Masters winner Mike Weir.

"It's been such a long road for Phil to finally win a major," Amy Mickelson told friend and neighbor Juliet Wilcox this week, "so of course we're thrilled for him. But he's been wearing that jacket for two weeks, and he hasn't taken it off. It's getting a little bit ripe."

"It's understandable what Phil's going through, to a certain degree," said three-time Masters champion Tiger Woods. "When I won my first green jacket in '97, I slept with it on the first night. Two weeks is a little extreme, though. It's got to be pretty well pitted out by now."

"I tell you," Mickelson said Monday morning after having slept in his green jacket for the fifteenth consecutive night, "this thing still feels as good as it did the minute they put it on me. Amy's been joking about how she's going to leave me if I don't get it dry cleaned pretty soon. Ha. That Amy. What a kidder."

"Oh, believe me," Amy Mickelson said. "I'm not kidding. I can't stand the smell of that thing for much longer. He's played golf seven times with it on since he won it, and it's been hot out. I'm giving him a couple more days, and then I'll have to tell him that it's the jacket or me."
http://www.athleticreporter.com/images/stories/857_9027.jpg

[CAPN CRUNCH]

Reading some of your post it is clear you are the new resident know it all. A real good addition to the forum, keep up the good work. LMAO..

ps: If you had taken the time to read the title of the post you may have been able to figure out who I was talking about. Do that next time before making your foolish and sophomoric post.

I will just go back in the woodwork now and lurk from time to time. With people like you and some others this place has become a soap opera instead of a gambling forum. Posters like you are what keep people that may have something to offer away, and when they give you a factual and accurate observation you have the need to give a civics lesson to someone you haven't a clue of who or what they know. Good job if that was your intent.Thank you, it was!

[ironlock]

Wouldn't this have hit the national airwaves with all this information?


Remember what happened to Pete Rose's BM after he stiffed him and then went public? It's called...PRISON!

I doubt the offended parties are scrambling to get on ESPN, with a 1 way ticket to the big house.

Anyone in the know .....knows you don't book Phil on credit.

[vegasisstilldead]

Is it me or does his smile look not genuine 90% of the time?

[drunk]

How people can post some of the crap they do is beyond me. The "I have heard" or "rumor has it" lines are the oldest and most telling way to find out who has a lonely and pathetic existence.

The funniest ones are those that try to insinuate that they have first hand knowledge of information that others don't. wink wink.

What a joke you guys are, I love reading this forum and learning things about gambling. Could do without the Desperate Housewifes crap!


Buddy. Take a chill pill. Your HERO mickelson is a POS. It's all true. No second hand info here. He stiffed pinny. The guy abouve hit it on the head also. He tries too offer 30-40 cents or less on the dollar. He out some so called "friends" in bad situations and he don't give a fcuk. Some man he is. LATER

[drunk]

Remember what happened to Pete Rose's BM after he stiffed him and then went public? It's called...PRISON!

I doubt the offended parties are scrambling to get on ESPN, with a 1 way ticket to the big house.

Anyone in the know .....knows you don't book Phil on credit.


I couldn't of said it better myself buddy.

[TTinCO]

Is it me or does his smile look not genuine 90% of the time?

Oh, it's not just you-it's about as phony as a $3 bill.

[CAPN CRUNCH]

Reading some of your post it is clear you are the new resident know it all. A real good addition to the forum, keep up the good work. LMAO..

ps: If you had taken the time to read the title of the post you may have been able to figure out who I was talking about. Do that next time before making your foolish and sophomoric post.

I will just go back in the woodwork now and lurk from time to time. With people like you and some others this place has become a soap opera instead of a gambling forum. Posters like you are what keep people that may have something to offer away, and when they give you a factual and accurate observation you have the need to give a civics lesson to someone you haven't a clue of who or what they know. Good job if that was your intent.I'm sorry I was mean to you Appolo! Come back and fill us in on some of that diamond in the rough knowledge! Thanks, Resident Know-it-All!:toast: P.S. I still think stiffs that could pay are big pieces of s##t!

[rogerdoger]

It seemslike most of you guys are jealous of Phil>>>>> Who cares about pinny.... they deserve it with their rigged blackjack!!!!